Robert Greene: Why People Manipulate & How to Protect Yourself

罗伯特·格林:人们为何操纵及如何自我保护

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

2025-12-09

46 分钟
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Have you ever felt like other people understand power better than you do — like they know the rules of the game and you don’t? In this episode, I sit down with The 48 Laws of Power author Robert Greene to talk about what power really is, how to use it without becoming manipulative, and why feeling powerless can quietly wreck your life. We get into communication, self-love, boundaries, and how to spot people who don’t have your best interests at heart, plus a preview of his new book The Law of the Sublime and what surviving a near-death experience taught him about appreciating life. Order The Next Conversation Workbook: https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/workbook Thank you to our sponsors: Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Monarch Money. 50% off your first year at https://monarchmoney.com/jefferson  Momentous. Visit https://www.livemomentous.com/ and use code JEFFERSON for 35% off your first order. BetterHelp. Click ⁠https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher⁠ for a discount on your first month of therapy. Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!  Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.  Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube  Follow me on Instagram  Follow me on TikTok Follow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • If you haven't heard of the book, The 48 Laws of Power, well, you might be living under a rock.

  • Today, I am privileged to talk to the man himself, the author of The 48 Laws of Power, Robert Green.

  • Robert, thank you so much for coming.

  • Thank you for having me, Jefferson.

  • I appreciate it.

  • This is a conversation I'm very much looking forward to

  • because your book is one that Often when I make content or I'm speaking,

  • there will typically be somebody who comes up and says, oh, have you read The 48 Laws of Power?

  • And I say, yes, I have.

  • And what I want to talk about and what the listeners are going to get,

  • what you're going to get in this episode is we're going to talk on can you use power and can you also maintain your own integrity?

  • Because a lot of the times,

  • People find those to be conflicting in some way of they hear manipulation They don't hear anything that is descriptive Prescriptive that can improve their life Robert.

  • How would you define?

  • Power what is what does power mean to you?

  • Well power is tool.

  • It's totally neutral Like a hammer,

  • you can use it to build a house or you could clobber someone over the head and kill them with it.

  • So power is simply a tool.

  • It's neutral.