2025-12-07
35 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.
For this episode,
we're rejoining for part two of our live event with former Prime Minister of Finland, Sana Marin.
Marin joined us recently at the Emmanuel Centre to discuss what it takes to have the courage to lead and her new memoir,
Hope in Action.
She was in conversation with broadcaster Kavita Puri.
If you haven't heard part one, do just jump back an episode and get up to speed.
Let's rejoin the conversation now live at the Emanuel Centre.
So you dealt with the Covid crisis, you dealt very skillfully with NATO membership,
but you also talk in the book about some and a number of scandals and you give them names like the blazer scandal and the breakfast scandal and the phone scandal.
But I think that the scandal that probably people may have heard about in the room is the Dancing Scandal.
Where you have a temerity to go to your mate's house and drink and dance.
And someone put pictures of you dancing on a private Insta account,
which somehow got leaked to the press.
You talk about it in the book as it was a kind of like a moral panic.
that then that then ensued and the crime was that you were behaving in a way that people politicians people in Finland felt was not becoming of a leader.
It was very clear that the rules were different for you and for male politicians.
Well I do have a whole chapter about my scandals that are not very political as the name can
as you can read from the name,