Germany and France’s generational split over pensions. Plus: four nations boycott Eurovision over Israel’s participation

Pensions continue to be an ongoing source of political instability in Germany and France, we unpack why. Then: Ireland, Spain, the Netherlands and Slovenia will boycott Eurovision 2026 over Israel's participation. Plus: we meet Anna Nash, president of Explora Journeys, at ILTM. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.