Can we turn deserts green?

我们能将沙漠变成绿洲吗?

CrowdScience

2025-12-06

33 分钟
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Can we turn the world’s deserts green? CrowdScience listener Youcef is captivated by the idea of bringing water back to Earth’s driest landscapes. With sea levels rising and huge stretches of land drying out each year, he wonders whether redirecting seawater inland could offer a solution to both problems. Presenter Alex Lathbridge sets out to investigate… starting with a kettle of salty water. Alex speaks with scientists about how deserts form, and how human actions like overgrazing can tip a fragile grassland into a barren landscape. He learns how the brightness of bare sand affects local weather, reducing cloud formation and rainfall. Researcher Yan Li reveals how huge solar and wind farms could darken and roughen the Sahara’s surface enough to double its rainfall, potentially kickstarting a self-reinforcing cycle of vegetation and moisture. But what about deserts where clouds already drift overhead? In the Atacama – one of the driest places on Earth – geographer Virginia Carter shows how fog harvesting nets can coax litres of fresh water from the air. Alex also investigates desalination, where professor Chris Sansom is trying to harness solar power to remove the salt from seawater without burning vast amounts of fossil fuels. It’s promising, but can it reduce the impact of rising sea levels? And what do you do with all the salt that’s left over? Climate scientist Alan Condron proposes an even wilder idea: towing kilometre-sized icebergs from Antarctica to parched nations. His models show it might be possible, but the logistics verge on science fiction. Finally, plant scientist Zinnia Gonzalez Carranza warns that greening deserts isn’t just about adding water. Introducing new species, even hardy ones like mesquite, can trigger ecological chaos and harm the very communities who depend on these landscapes. Presenter: Alex Lathbridge Producer: Sam Baker Editor: Ben Motley Photo: Palm trees - stock photo Credit: danymages via Getty Images)
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  • I'll start with the pouring, I guess.

  • Yeah, that is some salty water.

  • Give it a little mix.

  • And now we pour this salty water into the kettle.

  • OK.

  • OK.

  • So that's salty water.

  • And now I turn this kettle on.

  • Now we just wait for it to boil.

  • This is Crowdscience, the show where we boil questions in the kettle of curiosity.

  • I'm Alex Lathbridge.

  • So you're probably wondering why I'm boiling a kettle of salt water making this BBC studio smell like a dock.

  • Well, it's because of a question from listener Youssef.

  • Yeah, my question is, can we re-green the deserts?

  • So basically trying to put water back in the deserts.

  • The reason for my question is the climate change, how it's affecting us.

  • and also with the sea levels going up and up,

  • maybe it could be a solution to actually divert the water into the deserts.

  • Wow, I hadn't even thought about that.

  • By doing it, you're lowering sea levels.