The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: Maga man and Mamdani

狼-克鲁格曼对话:特朗普男与曼达尼

The Economics Show

2025-12-03

37 分钟
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Donald Trump promised to bring industrial jobs back to America when he swept to victory in last year’s presidential election, powered by a 12-point lead among male voters, but can he really deliver? In the second of this four-part series, the FT’s chief economics commentator Martin Wolf and Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman discuss the economic plight of American men - why their problems are real, but Maga’s proposed solutions are not. Plus, they consider the policy platform of another populist, the newly elected mayor of New York City, Zohran Mamdani, and whether his affordability agenda can translate into a nationwide policy for the Democrats. Subscribe and listen to this series of The Economics Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen to podcasts.  Read Martin’s column here  Subscribe to Paul’s substack here Find Paul’s cultural coda here Find Martin’s cultural coda here Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Sound design by Sam Giovinco and Breen Turner. Original music by Breen Turner. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Paul, do men in particular in America have an economic problem?

  • Yes, I think it's more than economics,

  • but something it really has gone wrong for American men of prime working age.

  • Something that is a contributing factor to a lot of demoralization,

  • especially among those with lower education levels,

  • and certainly is a factor in political radicalization.

  • a kind of bitter irony that Trump's MAGA agenda won't help these people at all,

  • but it plays to them.

  • I think there's plenty for us to discuss, so let's crank on.

  • Hello, I'm Martin Wolf, chief economics commentator at the Financial Times.

  • And I'm Paul Krugman, professor at the City University of New York,

  • and now an independent newsletter writer on Substack.

  • And welcome to the second episode of this series of the Wolf Krugman Exchange,

  • here on The Economics Show,

  • where Paul and I are taking stock of the first year of Donald Trump's second term in office,