The Wolf-Krugman Exchange: Trump’s ‘vibecession’

狼-克鲁格曼交流:特朗普的“氛围衰退”

FT News Briefing

2025-11-30

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As President Donald Trump approaches the one-year anniversary of his second term in office, the FT’s chief economics commentator Martin Wolf, and Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman sit down to discuss the US economy and the state of American democracy. Are American consumers finally feeling the effect of Trump’s tariffs? Is AI to blame for the frozen labour market? Or is the spectre of a weakening democracy and plutocracy to blame for slumping consumer sentiment? In the first of four weekly episodes, Wolf and Krugman unpick the US and world economy, with Krugman explaining why he’s less pessimistic now than he was earlier this year. Subscribe and listen to this series of The Economics Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen to podcasts.  Read Martin’s column here. Subscribe to Paul’s Substack here. Find Paul’s cultural coda here. Find Martin’s cultural coda here. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Hey guys, Mark here.

  • We're bringing you something a little different today on the briefing.

  • Regular listeners of FT Podcasts will know that earlier this year,

  • the FT's chief economics commentator, Martin Wolf,

  • sat down with Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman for a series of discussions we published on the economic show.

  • It was called the Wolf-Krugman Exchange.

  • Well, they're back at it again with a second series of four weekly episodes.

  • And this time they're assessing what a year of President Trump has meant for the US economy,

  • the world economy, and democracy everywhere.

  • So here goes episode one, Martin Wolf and Paul Krugman with their thoughts.

  • So Paul, hello, how are you?

  • I'm good.

  • How are you, Martin?

  • I'm feeling pretty good.

  • All things considered, I'm actually doing this podcast from my home.