Twin spirits: A lost bond that lives in dreams

双生灵魂:梦中的失落羁绊

The Documentary Podcast

2025-11-28

26 分钟
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Claire grew up in a multi-faith household that often looked beyond traditional beliefs for solutions. At 17, everything changed when her mother discovered that Claire was speaking to “dead people.” Convinced it was ungodly, her mother turned to both a medium and her charismatic Christian sect for guidance, asking priests to intervene so that Waswa, Claire’s twin brother who had died at birth, would no longer appear. Soon after, the dreams that had been Claire’s source of comfort vanished, leaving her lonely and confused. Searching for help, Claire eventually encountered a spiritual teacher who introduced her to a path blending African spiritualism and Christianity. Through this, she began to find her voice and discovered others with similar experiences. She is now feeling less alone in her new spiritual community.
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  • These dreams started from when I was eight years old,

  • but they continued up to like a greater part of my life.

  • I saw at the end of the house A child, a little child wearing a big white overshirt.

  • I could sense that this child feels lonely.

  • Ever since she was a little girl, Claire has spoken with the spirits.

  • My mother's first reaction was panic.

  • And she said, how come you've never told me you're talking to dead people?

  • And then she started to take me to church.

  • because it is said that it is wrong to speak to the dead.

  • I'm Eric Mugash and you're listening to the documentary from Heart and Soul for the BBC World Service.

  • We're in Kampala, the capital of Uganda, the city where I grew up.

  • I have come to meet Claire Nakato, whose journey takes us to a world beyond the everyday.

  • A world where spirits speak through dreams and reveal the deepest of secrets.

  • Her story is one of mystery and of healing, a search for understanding and for peace.

  • It begins with her childhood and growing up in Uganda, the central region of Uganda.

  • In Uganda, my culture, back then I don't know if it's still happening now.