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John, what's happening man?
I'm Lich, it's good to meet you.
Very nice to meet you.
You too, thanks for having me.
I know you're in the middle of a project.
You're doing a project with David Chase, right?
It's about MK Ultra and...
Yes, he has gotten the rights to this book, you know, this book,
Project Mind Control, and he's, yeah, interested in adapting it into a series.
Well, I am endlessly fascinated with the subject, so as soon as I heard about it,
and they said the series is coming,
but you could talk to the guy who wrote the book down, like, let's go.
So here we go, Project Mind Control, Sidney Gottlieb.
the CIA and the tragedy of MK Ultra, which really is a tragedy.
I really got, and I knew about it,
but I really didn't get completely obsessed with it until Chaos,
Tom O'Neill's book, have you read that?