Does modern medicine need to drop the distinction between mental and physical health? With Professor Edward Bullmore

现代医学是否需要摒弃心理与生理健康的界限?——与爱德华·布勒莫尔教授对话

Intelligence Squared

2025-11-24

47 分钟
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For centuries, mental and physical health have been divided - disorders of the mind and body have been treated as if they were poles apart. This deep-rooted division has shaped medicine, psychiatry, and society. But what if this mind/body split is not only outdated - but dangerously misleading? Psychiatrist and neuroscientist Professor Edward Bullmore is Regius Professor of Psychiatry at Kings College London. For this episode, he sat down with Dr Güneş Taylor to explore the historical and philosophical reasons for our separation of mind and body in modern medicine. With a focus on the dark history of our treatment of schizophrenia, from 17th century medicine to the emergence of psychiatry in the 19th century, to the eugenics movement of Nazi Germany, he shows how the modern foundations of psychiatry were established, and how new scientific discoveries can help revolutionise how we treat mental illness. The Divided Mind: A New Way of Thinking About Mental Health by Professor Edward Bullmore is available to buy now. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.

  • What if the centuries-old divide between mind and body isn't just wrong,

  • but has been harming our understanding of mental illness all along?

  • On today's episode, Regis Professor of Psychiatry Edward Bulmore joins us to discuss his new book,

  • The Divided Mind, a new way of thinking about mental health.

  • In conversation with Ganesh Taylor,

  • he traces the historical and philosophical roots of the mind-body split,

  • from 17th century medicine to the rise of psychiatry and the horrors of eugenics,

  • and explores how modern scientific discoveries could transform the way we diagnose and treat mental illness today.

  • Let's join our host, Ganesh Taylor, now with more.

  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared.

  • I'm Dr Ganesh Taylor,

  • Chancellor's Fellow at the Centre of Reproductive Health in the University of Edinburgh.

  • Today, our guest is psychiatrist and neuroscientist Professor Edward Bulmore,

  • who is currently the Regis Professor of Psychiatry at King's College London.

  • His highly acclaimed first book, The Inflamed Mind,

  • focused on the links between inflammation and depression.

  • He's here with us today to talk about his groundbreaking new book, The Divided Mind,

  • which is both a study of the evolving science of schizophrenia and an illuminating exploration of the history of psychiatry.