Sunday Special: Wicked, Good?

周日特辑:邪恶,美好?

The Daily

2025-11-23

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“Wicked” was one of the biggest movies of 2024. It was culturally ubiquitous, a box office smash and an Oscar nominee for Best Picture. Now, a year later, “Wicked: For Good” arrives in theaters to finish the tale of the complicated friendship between Glinda the Good Witch and Elphaba, the Wicked Witch of the West. Can “Wicked: For Good” be the sensation that its predecessor was? Will it inject new life into a movie business that has suffered a historically bad business year? Will it satisfy the legions of “Wicked” fans who have been waiting to see their favorite musical brought to the big screen? Gilbert Cruz is joined by Kyle Buchanan, a pop culture reporter for The New York Times who profiled the stars of “Wicked,” and Madison Malone Kircher, a reporter for the Styles desk and affirmed “Wicked” fanatic, to discuss what “Wicked: For Good” means for the movies.   On Today’s Episode Madison Malone Kircher is a reporter covering internet culture for The Times. Kyle Buchanan is a pop culture reporter and serves as The Projectionist, the awards season columnist for The New York Times. Photo: Universal Pictures   Additional Reading Ariana Grande Still Has Surprises in Store There Have Been Dozens of “Wicked” Interviews. Why Did This One Go Viral? Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • I'm Helene Cooper.

  • I cover the US military for the New York Times.

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  • Welcome to the Sunday Special.

  • I'm Gilbert Cruz.

  • Wicked is back.

  • Wicked for Good has just been released.

  • This is film number two.

  • The first movie, simply titled Wicked, came out almost exactly one year ago today.

  • And Wicked for Good is going to be one of the biggest films of the year.

  • Joining me to talk about it is Kyle Buchanan, who covers Hollywood for the Times,

  • and who recently profiled Ariana Grande, one of the stars of the film.

  • Hello, Kyle.

  • Hello, Gilbert.