Samin Nosrat doesn’t love Thanksgiving food. Here’s what she says will improve it.

萨米恩·诺斯瑞特并不热爱感恩节的食物。她说这几点可以让它变得更好。

Apple News In Conversation

2025-11-21

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With the release of her James Beard Award–winning cookbook, Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat, Samin Nosrat catapulted to international fame. But amid big life changes and loss in the years that followed, she struggled to redefine her connection to cooking. With her second book, Good Things, Nosrat is back with a fresh approach to preparing food — one that’s centered on spending precious time with loved ones. She sat down with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu to talk about what makes a good recipe, her weekly dinner-party group, and how to alleviate the stress of cooking a high-stakes holiday meal.
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  • Hi there, it's Jamita here.

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  • This is In Conversation from Apple News.

  • I'm Shamita Basu.

  • Today, Sammy Nosrat on her new book, New Traditions and How to Do Thanksgiving Without Stress.

  • It's hard to overstate the culture shift that came from Semi Nostrat's best-selling cookbook,

  • Salt Fat Acid Heat.

  • In it,

  • the chef and writer laid out these four cornerstones of cooking and made the argument that anyone can cook well

  • if they understand how these elements work together.