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2025-11-18

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Introducing Fighterland, USA from Things That Go Boom. Follow the show: Things That Go Boom For a century, the weapons industry has helped shape St. Louis — from the McDonnell Douglas fighters that once symbolized American air power to Boeing’s sprawling factories today. But when thousands of machinists walked off the job this year, something cracked in “Fighterland, USA.” In this episode, we head to the picket line to hear from the workers who build America’s bombs and jets — those struggling to afford rent, groceries, and daycare while assembling weapons worth more than their annual salaries. Reporter Sophie Hurwitz takes us inside a city reckoning with its identity: Can St. Louis really become the “Silicon Valley of defense” when the jobs it’s banking on are shrinking? What happens when an economy built on war no longer guarantees stability? And what does labor power look like in an industry whose products help shape conflicts worldwide? While some in town are fighting to keep defense dollars flowing, others want St. Louis to imagine a different future. This is the story of a strike, a city, and a century-long relationship with the military-industrial complex now reaching its breaking point. Guests:  Sophie Hurwitz, Reporting Fellow, Inkstick Media; Breanna Donnell, Rick Perdue, Mason, and other Boeing Machinists; Stephen Quackenbush, Professor and Director of Defense and Strategic Studies, University of Missouri; Maxi Glamour, 3rd Ward Committeeperson, St. Louis Additional Resources:  “How One Dissenter Left Boeing,” Sophie Hurwitz, Inkstick Media  “The Year Arms Contractors Stopped Supporting Pride,” Sophie Hurwitz, Inkstick Media DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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  • Hi, I'm Lacey Healy and today we're taking you to a strike just outside St.

  • Louis, Missouri where machinist Brianna Dottel just saw the planes that she helped build overhead.

  • That was spectacular.

  • Like I'm always,

  • I'm always inside of work working on making new parts for an F18 or a 777X and when I finally get to see The aircraft,

  • the pieces that I make for the aircraft,

  • when I see it flying, that motivates me, that keeps me going.

  • You know, I'm very ecstatic and very happy about that.

  • And that's definitely what I'm fighting for.

  • When we talked to her in October,

  • Brianna and her colleagues had been walking the picket since August 4th.

  • And after all of that time away from the assembly line, she just wanted to get back to work.

  • My life before Boeing, it was, I was living check-to-check and you know, shit was kind of hard.

  • But she was sticking it out because other workers had it worse.

  • As I started meeting the contract, it got...

  • more understanding of how it was treating our senior citizens.

  • I did not agree with it, and I do not agree with it.

  • So I'm ready to get back to work because I love what I do.

  • I enjoy what I do.

  • And, you know, if we even settled with the first contract, I would have been happy.