How to make switching jobs not terrifying

如何让跳槽不再令人畏惧

The Indicator from Planet Money

2025-11-18

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The U.S. labor market is stagnant right now, with little hiring and lots of people holding onto their jobs for dear life. In Denmark, there’s a different kind of labor system where it’s easy for employers to hire and fire, but at the same time people have a strong safety net in-between jobs. Today on the show, we learn how “flexicurity” works through the story of a Danish woman who left her job, and we ask how the model could work in the U.S. Related episodes: Why do we live in unusually innovative times?How Marxism went from philosophy to cudgelOzempic's biggest side effect: Turning Denmark into a 'pharmastate'? For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Fact-checking by Tyler Jones. Translation from Jasmine Lolila. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter.   Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • This is The Indicator from Planet Money.

  • I'm Stephen Misaha.

  • And I'm Darren Woods.

  • So, Stephen...

  • There are reports showing that people are pretty worried about their jobs right now.

  • Yeah, it's this sort of labor market freeze that we're in.

  • Very few companies are hiring right now.

  • Workers, they're clinging to their existing jobs.

  • I believe job hugging is the word I've heard.

  • Even if they don't like the job, they're holding on tight.

  • Yeah, the quits rate is really low and that is not a great sign usually.

  • There are a lot of reasons behind this freeze.

  • You've got interest rates starting to bite,

  • uncertainty about government policy, probably even artificial intelligence, automating junior tasks.

  • But whatever the cause, there is a set of policies that we in the US could learn from,

  • policies that could unfreeze the labor market.

  • It's called flex security.

  • Flex security, exactly.

  • When the economics Nobel was announced this year,

  • this term kept coming up as a way to manage a fast-changing economy.