How Thomas Sowell Transformed Coleman Hughes

托马斯·索维如何改变了科勒·休斯

Old School with Shilo Brooks

2025-11-05

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Why do we believe what we believe? And how do those beliefs shape our politics?  Thomas Sowell, one of the world’s most influential economists and social philosophers, set out to answer this question in his 1987 book, A Conflict of Visions. In it, he traces the underlying logic behind all modern political divides—why it is that knowing someone’s position on one issue, say gun control, makes it easy to predict their position on a totally unrelated issue, like abortion.  In this episode, Shilo Brooks sits down with Coleman Hughes to discuss the book that Sowell himself calls his favorite. Their conversation—recorded well before yesterday’s election of Democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani—illuminates why some of us buy into utopian projects of remaking society, while others trust the quiet power of incentive structures like free markets.  Old School is proudly brought to you by the Jack Miller Center. If you believe in the importance of civic education and want to help prepare the next generation to carry on our democracy, join us at JackMillerCenter.org. Become a paid subscriber to The Free Press today to enjoy exclusive bonus episodes and reduced ads. Click here to subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Hey y'all, I'm Shiloh Brooks.

  • I'm a professor and CEO, and I believe reading good books makes us better men.

  • Today, I'm talking with Coleman Hughes.

  • Coleman is an author, podcaster, and columnist for the Free Press,

  • who frequently writes about issues related to race, public policy, and culture.

  • Last year, he released his first book, The End of Race Politics, arguments for a colorblind America.

  • Thomas Sowles, A Conflict of Visions, published in 1987, change Coleman's life.

  • Today, I'm asking him why.

  • This is old school.

  • Common Hughes, welcome to old school.

  • It's great to be with you.

  • You have written a profile of Thomas Sowell,

  • and I asked you to come on today to talk about a book that changed your life,

  • and you picked Thomas Sowell's conflict divisions.

  • Tell us a little bit about who Thomas Sowell is.

  • He's an incredible story of a man that could only come from America.

  • I believe he was born in North Carolina, Jim Crow era,

  • without hot water or electricity, way out in the sticks.

  • And as he put it in his memoir, When he was a child,

  • white people were, I think he said, hypothetical to him.