What ‘The Great Gatsby’ Taught Fareed Zakaria About America

《了不起的盖茨比》教给法瑞德·扎卡里亚对美国的一些认识

Old School with Shilo Brooks

2025-11-13

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It’s been 100 years since The Great Gatsby was published. In this episode, Shilo Brooks sits down with journalist Fareed Zakaria to explore why the F. Scott Fitzgerald novel still feels so modern.  Zakaria shares his experience discovering the classic as an Indian immigrant, describing Gatsby as his gateway to understanding America. Together, they unpack the book’s enduring themes: the allure of reinvention and the American dream, the search for meaning in a world stripped of faith and tradition, and the spiritual hollowness that accompanies wealth and glamor. They also discuss Fitzgerald’s unique partnership with his editor Maxwell Perkins, a writer-editor collaboration that helped transform Gatsby into one of the greatest works of American literature. Plus: Zakaria sounds off on what’s wrong with journalism—and its consumers—today.  Old School is proudly brought to you by the Jack Miller Center. If you believe in the importance of civic education and want to help prepare the next generation to carry on our democracy, join us at JackMillerCenter.org. Become a paid subscriber to The Free Press today to enjoy exclusive bonus episodes and reduced ads. Click here to subscribe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • I'm Shiloh Brooks.

  • I'm a professor and CEO, and I believe reading good books makes us better men.

  • Today, I'm sitting down with Fareed Zakaria.

  • Fareed is a renowned journalist, political commentator, and best-selling author.

  • The Great Gatsby by F.

  • Scott Fitzgerald published in 1925 changed Fareed's life.

  • Today, I'm asking him why.

  • This is old school.

  • Fried Zakaria, welcome to old school.

  • Thank you so much for having me.

  • It's a pleasure to have you.

  • One of the reasons is you've written a lot of books yourself and this is a podcast about books and you've got really wide-ranging intellectual interests,

  • which I appreciate.

  • Can you talk a little bit about how you got to CNN with such a wide variety of intellectual interests and how those have shaped you?

  • It's partly because I'm a kind of jack of all trades,

  • you know, I've never been very good at specializing in siloing myself.

  • And I discovered

  • as I was working as a journalist that it actually helped me to be able to range as widely as my intellectual curiosity.

  • And so, you know, I was at Yale,

  • I studied history, and I studied a lot of American and European history,