2025-11-12
38 分钟Hello, it's 1,357 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
And Vitaly, you have had a very interesting conversation with a very interesting woman.
I did.
I think it's one of those interviews that will stay with me for a long time.
The woman I spoke to is called Maria Alochina.
And our listeners, at least some of our listeners,
will remember her as one of the founding members of the Russian feminist punk group called Pussy Riot and they shot the prominence back in 2012 when they staged what they called a punk prayer in Moscow's main cathedral.
The lyrics were kind of tongue-in-cheek and they begged Mary to banish Putin from Russia.
I think they performed in Christ the Saviour Cathedral for less than a minute.
Because they got stopped.
They got stopped, of course, and that was enough to send them to jail for two years.
And you, we know, because you've talked about it before on Ukrainecast,
I can't remember when, but we know you like your music.
I do, and I remember...
And do you like your punk music?
I...
listen to a lot of Russian punk back in the day,
Grozdanska Barona, Civil Defense, things like Yanka Diaghileva.
And I have to say,
punk music in Russia has a slightly different lyrical tradition than in most parts of the West.