Gabrielle Bernstein: The Simple 4-Step Method to Heal Anxiety, Stop Overthinking, and Stop People-Pleasing for Good

加布里埃尔·伯恩斯坦:《简单四步法,治愈焦虑、停止过度思考,永远告别取悦他人》

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

2025-11-12

1 小时 21 分钟
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Have you been feeling anxious lately? Do you notice when your mind starts to spiral? Jay welcomes back his good friend and New York Times bestselling author Gabrielle Bernstein for a deep and inspiring conversation about true inner healing. Together, they unpack Gabby’s latest book, Self-Help, which reimagines Internal Family Systems Therapy (IFS) as a practice anyone can bring into their daily life. Gabby shares how the parts of us we often judge, the anxious part, the perfectionist, the people-pleaser, the one who needs control, aren’t our enemies. They’re parts that have been trying to protect us, even if they sometimes get in the way. As the conversation unfolds, Jay and Gabby unpack why so many of us get caught in cycles of burnout, self-criticism, and emotional disconnection. Gabby shares her simple four-step “check-in” practice, a way to pause, look inward, and start building a kinder relationship with ourselves. Through this process, she explains, we can start to recognize our patterns, meet them with compassion and find peace even in the midst of life’s noise. Together, they unpack powerful questions we can all relate to: Why is it easier to comfort others than ourselves? Could our inner critic actually be trying to protect us? And how can we set boundaries without losing our empathy or warmth? In this interview, you'll learn: How to Befriend Every Part of Yourself How to Recognize Your Inner Protectors How to Heal Through Compassion, Not Control How to Calm Your Inner Critic How to Create Boundaries Without Guilt How to Self-Soothe When You Feel Triggered Healing doesn’t mean fixing what’s broken, it means learning to see every part of yourself with compassion and curiosity. The parts of you that once felt heavy or hard to love are often the same ones that carried you through the toughest moments.  With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here.  Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast  What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 03:29 What is Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy? 06:00 Healing Deep Trauma Through IFS 08:38 Where Real Healing From Trauma Begins 10:17 Blending Therapy with Spiritual Connection 13:38 Strengthen Your Own Spiritual Foundation 16:57 The Four-Step Self Check-In Practice 20:32 The Journey Toward Feeling Truly Great 25:39 Finding Peace Without External Validation 26:46 We All Have An Inner Spiritual Power 31:00 Seeing Self-Judgment as a Form of Protection 33:40 Stop Being So Hard on Yourself 36:24 Connecting with the Parts That Protect You 41:45 Why Facing Yourself Feels So Hard 47:33 Healing Starts When You Do the Work 49:54 The Power of Forgiving Yourself  55:57 Every Part of You Serves a Purpose 57:46 What Changes When You Befriend Your Inner Parts 59:00 The Truth About High Performers and Inner Peace 01:01:45 How to Set Boundaries with Love and Clarity 01:08:47 Gabby on Final Five  Episode Resources: Gabrielle Bernstein | Website Gabrielle Bernstein | TikTok Gabrielle Bernstein | Instagram Gabrielle Bernstein | Facebook Gabrielle Bernstein | YouTube Dear Gabby Self Help: This Is Your Chance to Change Your Life Gabby's 21-day Manifesting Challenge See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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