I've started a new show where I have conversations with some of the greatest living founders.
That show is called David Senra.
It will be on a separate podcast feed from founders.
So it's very important that you follow David Senra on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube,
or really wherever you're listening to this right now so you don't miss future episodes.
This conversation is with one of my favorite living founders, Todd Graves.
Todd owns over 90% of Raising Canes, a business that is worth over $20 billion.
And he's been working on this business for almost 30 years.
Todd has an extreme level of focus and a love of radical simplicity that I love and I try to apply to my own craft.
I am posting our entire conversation on this feed so you know what the new show is like.
I hope you enjoy our conversation and please don't forget to follow the new show,
David Sandra, now so you don't miss future episodes.
And by the way, nothing is changing with founders.
I am still doing episodes every week and it will work on founders until I die.
I was not expecting to start here, Todd.
We were just talking before recording.
I didn't expect to start on sleep,
but what you just said is exactly how most of history's great entrepreneurs are.
They just can't stop thinking about their business.
Because I was asking you, like, how much caffeine do you take?