COP30: The world's climate future hinges on this meeting

COP30:世界的气候未来悬于这次会议之上

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2025-11-07

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Episode 330 COP30 is nearly upon us - and this climate conference may be the most crucial so far. In a year where we’ve seen the first major global tipping point reached, destructive wildfires raging in Los Angeles and much more, joint action has never been more urgent. But as hope starts to wane and climate goals continue to be missed, many are questioning the value of the COPs. Even legendary figure  Christiana Figueres is showing signs of doubt. So 10 years on from Paris, in a year that countries are meant to come back with renewed, more ambitious pledges - will their commitments be enough? In a special COP30 episode of the podcast, we’re joined by Simon Evans, climate journalist and deputy editor of the website Carbon Brief, as well as Rupert Read, climate philosopher, activist and director of the Climate Majority Project. Together they outline what has actually been achieved since the Paris agreement was signed - and whether the COP process is fit for purpose. They discuss the growing need for adaptation, and disagree on the failure of mitigation goals. And they touch on America’s absence from the conference, promises of raising climate finance goals, the problem with net-zero and more. Hosted by Rowan Hooper and Penny Sarchet.To read more about these stories, visit https://www.newscientist.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • A special episode this week on the 10th of November,

  • the latest UN climate conference kicks off in Brazil.

  • It's COP 30, 10 years after the landmark Paris Agreement of 2015,

  • where countries agreed to try and keep warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius.

  • And if not that, then no higher than two degrees.

  • It was abundantly clear that those pages were not going to be enough.

  • We're on track for 2.5 degrees of warming by the end of the century.

  • Yes, we are basically at 1.5 degrees of warming now.

  • And various troubling climate tipping points are starting to loom.

  • The world is a very different place politically,

  • financially, climatically than it was at the Paris Agreement.

  • And then, of course,

  • the biggest of elephant in the room is Trump and the way that global geopolitics has changed over the past year.

  • Add to this, it feels like the public discourse around climate change has never felt so polarised.

  • Polarised, yeah.

  • there's a widespread sense of sort of doubt over this cop.

  • Do I think we're really gonna get very far on this at the cop?

  • I'm pretty doubtful.

  • Like the bar couldn't get much lower.

  • But it's still very important indeed and that's what we're getting into this week.