Heir Jordan: the rising star of France's populist right

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  First up, though.

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  Last week, I sat down with Zannie Minton Bedders, our editor-in-chief,

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  and Jordan Bardella, who is the 30-year-old protégé of Marine Le Pen,

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  the most popular politician in France and who has just put out a book,

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  which is now the second best-selling book in France after the asterisk volume.

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  Sophie Better is our Paris bureau chief.

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  We met in his office in Paris, where the RN has its headquarters.

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  And given the messy state of French politics today,

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  we came away with a real feeling that is someone who thinks that he has a real chance of taking power sooner rather than later.

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  Now, Sophie, the last time we spoke with you about Mr.

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  Bardella, it was just after Ms.

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