The Man Leading Trump’s AI Charge Against China

领导特朗普对抗中国人工智能攻势的人

The Journal.

2025-11-06

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At WSJ’s Tech Live, Jessica Mendoza sits down with Michael Kratsios, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy to discuss the pivotal moment in the U.S.-China AI race, how he thinks AI should be regulated, and whether or not the AI boom might be a bubble.  Further Listening: - Is the AI Boom… a Bubble? - How a $1.5 Billion Settlement Could Alter the Course of AI  - The Nvidia CEO’s Quest to Sell Chips in China Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • China and the U.S.

  • are locked in a race over AI, and President Trump says the U.S.

  • is ahead.

  • China and other countries are racing to catch up to America having to do with AI,

  • and we're not going to let them do it.

  • But winning the AI race isn't going to be easy.

  • The U.S.

  • lags behind China on electricity generation,

  • and earlier this year was shaken by the advancements of Chinese AI firm DeepSeq.

  • Today, I'm joined by the man the president has chosen to lead the government over these hurdles,

  • Michael Kratios.

  • Michael worked for PayPal founder Peter Thiel and became chief technology officer in Trump's first administration.

  • He spent four years working at the AI startup Scale AI.

  • And earlier this year,

  • he returned to government as the head of the Office of Science and Technology Policy,

  • the agency in charge of the nation's tech strategy.

  • Michael and I are going to talk about everything from chips to chatbots.

  • and his thoughts on the role the government should play in AI development and innovation.

  • From the Wall Street Journal's Tech Live event,

  • welcome to this live taping of the Journal, our show about money, business, and power.