2025-11-05
55 分钟Oh, hey, it's the guy who runs the local board game night.
Hoping someone shows up at the pizza place to game.
Hallie Ward, boy!
Hootie, I've wanted to cover this one forever.
And it was all a matter of finding the right owl person.
And we did it.
We got them.
I have so much to say about this guest that I'm going to list it in bullet points.
Okay.
So they got their PhD at the University of California, Berkeley.
They have studied owls for over four decades.
Their papers have been cited nearly 14,000 times.
I noticed that in their papers, they thank their wife, Katie, and they seem genuinely in love.
They came highly recommended by several other oligists, including Dr.
Gavin Jones of the Fire Ecology episode.
I had to beg this owl guest to be on this episode
because they kept asking if they were right for it.
I did this by taking a phone call
as I was driving through the desert and I pulled over at a dusty turnout to chat with them for like 30 minutes about why I was already obsessed with them and their work.
Before we recorded, this guest sent me some pictures and owl videos,