Winners

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This American Life

2025-11-03

58 分钟
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America loves winners—now more than ever. But how do you get to a win in 2025 America? We get up close and follow someone trying to build a big win for herself and thousands of others like her. Visit thisamericanlife.org/lifepartners to sign up for our premium subscription. Prologue: Ira talks to producer Diane Wu about an informal survey she’s done with the staff of This American Life about a phrase Ira says a lot that includes the word “winners.” (8 minutes)Act One: Two people see one of President Trump’s first executive orders and get excited, and then get to work. (30 minutes)Act Two: We follow the progress of one woman as she builds up, from scratch, a whole movement based on one of Trump’s executive orders. (19 minutes)Transcripts are available at thisamericanlife.org This American Life privacy policy. Learn more about sponsor message choices.
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  • Okay, so here's something that I learned about myself this last week.

  • Today's show, we're doing a show about winners.

  • And as we talked about this idea here at the radio show,

  • I learned that there is something I apparently say all the time here at our office

  • as we make the show.

  • And I really had no idea I said this at all until a few months ago when somebody on staff pointed this out.

  • And back when that happened, I felt like, sure, yes,

  • I guess I have said that every now and then over the years.

  • But this week I learned I had that wrong.

  • Yeah, you say it all the time.

  • I am joined in the studio now by my co-worker Diane Wu.

  • Hey there, Diane.

  • Hi, Ira.

  • It's something that I have noticed, but I didn't talk about it with my coworkers until this week.

  • And when I went to them and taped those conversations, everybody knew what I was talking about.

  • Whenever you feel like you're trying to work on a story and you're in your low point,

  • he kind of gives you this look and he's like, no, you're a winner.

  • You know, you know, like how in Harry Potter, they're just like, you're a wizard, Ari.

  • That's what he kind of does with winners.

  • The thing I always says is, let's win.