After the shutdown, SNAP will still be in trouble

关停之后,SNAP仍将陷入困境

Planet Money

2025-11-01

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This week’s SNAP crisis is just a preview. Tucked inside the giant tax-cut and spending bill signed by President Donald Trump this summer are enormous cuts to SNAP: Who qualifies, how much they get, and who foots the bill for the program. That last part is a huge change. For the entire history of the food stamp program, the federal government has paid for all the benefits that go out. States pay part of the cost of administering it, but the food stamp money has come entirely from federal taxpayers. This bill shifts part of the costs to states. How much will states have to pay? It depends. The law ties the amount to a statistic called the Payment Error Rate -- the official measure of accuracy -- whether states are giving recipients either too much, or too little, in food stamp money. On today’s show, we go to Oregon to meet the bureaucrats on the front lines of getting that error rate down -- and ask Governor Tina Kotek what’s going to happen if they can’t. Looking for hunger-relief resources? Try here. Pre-order the Planet Money book and get a free gift. /  Subscribe to Planet Money+. Listen free: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the NPR app or anywhere you get podcasts. Facebook / Instagram / TikTok / Our weekly Newsletter. This episode was hosted by Nick Fountain and Jeff Guo. It was produced by James Sneed and Willa Rubin, edited by Marianne McCune and Jess Jiang, fact-checked by Sierra Juarez, and engineered by Debbie Daughtry and Robert Rodriguez. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money’s executive producer. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • Like many of us, Nate Singer spent the 4th of July at a barbecue in jeans and a t-shirt.

  • It was a decent day.

  • It wasn't too hot.

  • Red, white, and blue tablecloths.

  • Nate is a father of four,

  • and he's one of those dads who likes to hang out literally at the barbecue.

  • Flipping burgers for people.

  • Is that normally your job as the burger flipper?

  • It's a good thing to do.

  • You just hang around the grill, not so social.

  • It's strange that I work in human services.

  • Yeah, Nate is a big muckety muck at the Oregon Department of Human Services.

  • He runs the division that signs people up for programs like food stamps.

  • And Nate, he's like a bureaucrat's bureaucrat,

  • the type of person who carries around a pen and a high letter in case he needs to mark up a document.

  • My kids think that I have my own coloring books that are just really boring coloring books.

  • This July 4th barbecue was no exception.

  • Whenever Nate got a break from grilling, he'd pull out some folded up paper from his back pocket,

  • and he would read the text of President Donald Trump's signature bill,