Are Trump’s tariffs legal? With Jennifer Hillman

特朗普的关税合法吗?与珍妮弗·希尔曼讨论

The Economics Show

2025-10-30

32 分钟
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US President Donald Trump’s tariff programme has been a central pillar of his second term in office. But a case being heard by the US Supreme Court could throw this central tenet of his trade policy into disarray. Trump has argued that tariffs are a matter of national security for which the president is ultimately responsible; others say they’re an economic issue, and should be set by Congress, as set out in the US constitution. Which way will the Supreme Court vote – and what could that mean for Trump’s tariff regime? To find out, FT senior trade writer Alan Beattie speaks to Jennifer Hillman, a law professor at Georgetown University, former general counsel of the US trade representative, and one of the few people who predicted Trump’s tariffs were vulnerable to legal challenge. Alan Beattie is the FT’s senior trade writer. You can find his articles here: https://www.ft.com/alan-beattie Sign up to Alan’s Trade Secrets newsletter here: https://subs.ft.com/spa3_tradesecrets?segmentId=357afa03-959c-93ed-0842-58e2115025d4 Subscribe to The Economics Show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen.  Presented by Alan Beattie. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Flo Phillips is the executive producer. Manuela Saragosa is the FT’s acting co-head of audio. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Tariffs or taxes on imports have been a powerful weapon in Donald Trump's trade policy in his second term.

  • But could they be illegal?

  • The United States Supreme Court will next week start to hear a case that challenges the president's right to impose those duties without the approval of Congress.

  • Defeat for Trump could have major ramifications for U.S.

  • trade policy.

  • Victory could give the president broad new powers, not just over tariffs.

  • Which way is the case likely to go?

  • And what will Trump's options be if he loses?

  • This is The Economics Show.

  • I'm Alan Beattie, EFT senior trade writer and author of the trade secrets newsletter.

  • I'm joined today by Jennifer Hillman,

  • professor at Georgetown University and a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

  • Perhaps more interestingly, Jennifer is a former general counsel at the U.S.

  • Trade Representative's office.

  • She was also a judge on the appellate body of the World Trade Organization.

  • And perhaps most interestingly for our purposes,

  • she was also one of our minority who accurately predicted from the beginning that the Trump tariffs were vulnerable to legal challenge.

  • Jennifer, welcome to the show.

  • Thank you.

  • It's a delight to be here.