Protecting the jungle: on the road with Madagascar's seed hunters

保护丛林:与马达加斯加的种子猎人同行

Babbage from The Economist

2025-10-30

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Between 2001 and 2024, a quarter of Madagascar's native rainforest has vanished. At this rate of destruction, those ecosystems will be entirely wiped out by the end of the century. Could collecting and preserving the seeds of the endangered plants help repair the country's ancient forests? Host: Alok Jha, The Economist's science and technology editor. Guests: The Economist's Ainslie Johnstone; Henintsoa Razanajatovo and Nomentsoa Randriamamonj of Kew Madagascar; Sharon Balding and Charlotte Lusty of Kew's Millennium Seed Bank at Wakehurst. Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+.
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  • The Economist A few weeks ago, Ainsley Johnston,

  • one of the Economist's science correspondents, went to Madagascar.

  • Just walking up and could hear lemurs, which was really exciting.

  • Now we're about to have breakfast and then head off into the forest seed collecting.

  • I was in Madagascar with a team of Bostonists,

  • and they were telling me about how their countryside has changed.

  • So before the east part of Madagascar was full of forest, Hennet Sau is one of the Bostonists.

  • She told me about a local expression.

  • In her grandparents' generation, they use the phrase,

  • when the eastern forest disappears, kind of like the equivalent of when pigs fly.

  • Before...

  • people thought that it will never disappear but with the threat that the forest are under now this expression is not true anymore

  • because the forest is disappeared.

  • Yeah, it doesn't really make sense anymore.

  • It's like a kind of expression to say that everything can change but before it was reality.

  • It's not the reality anymore.

  • The phrase doesn't reflect reality anymore

  • because the loss of the eastern forest no longer seems impossible or even distant.

  • The rainforest, like Madagascar's many other wooded areas,

  • are under threat from climate change, wildfires, slash and burn agriculture, and invasive species.