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Overthink

2025-10-28

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Introducing Gray Divorce (after 50) & Adult Children: The Fallout for the Family, with Oprah and Leading Experts from The Oprah Podcast. Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast Oprah is joined by a live audience in New York City for a candid conversation about the soaring rates of divorce for people over the age of 50, what experts are calling "gray divorce.” Even though the overall divorce rate is on the decline, the divorce rate for people over 50 has doubled and more than tripled for those over 65. Oprah is joined by Susan Guthrie, a family law attorney and host of the popular podcast, Divorce and Beyond®. Joining the conversation are Lori Gottlieb, psychotherapist, and author of the New York Times bestselling book, Maybe You Should Talk to Someone and Dr. Susan L. Brown, co-author of the studies identifying this national phenomenon, and a Distinguished Professor at Bowling Green State University. We also hear from several women who are in the early stages of gray divorce, have gone through gray divorce and adult children of parents who divorced after age 50. 00:00:00 - Rising divorce rates after 50 (“gray divorce”) 00:02:00 - Expert insights with Dr. Susan Brown 00:03:18 - Why gray divorce is on the rise 00:04:09 - Guest: Family law attorney Susan Guthrie 00:06:20 - Guest: Lori Gottlieb, author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone 00:11:00 - Why divorce feels shameful 00:14:30 - Men’s surprise at women’s “invisible work” 00:16:22 - Is divorce always terrible? 00:19:02 - Divorce as grief and loss 00:26:45 - First steps after divorce 00:30:58 - Impact on older children 00:36:58 - Why few expect to remarry 00:41:50 - When parent-child roles reverse 00:47:32 - Knowing when to move on Additional Resources: Susan Guthrie, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/ Dr. Susan L. Brown, National Center for Family and Marriage Research at BGSU BGSU.edu/ncfmr "Maybe You Should to Someone: A Therapist, Her Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed” by Lori Gottlieb, is published by Harper Collins and available wherever books are sold. https://www.harpercollins.com/products/maybe-you-should-talk-to-someone-lori-gottlieb?variant=40828383363106 Addison Aloian’s Women's Health piece, 'My Parents Got Divorced When I Was An Adult. Why Do I Feel So Weird Now That They've Moved On? https://www.womenshealthmag.com/relationships/a63799212/adult-child-of-divorce/ Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/ https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/ Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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  • I came downstairs and my husband of 26 years announced that he wanted to get divorced.

  • So it was just like the rug being pulled out from underneath me.

  • Hello and a warm welcome to you all.

  • We're out of the tea house today and we're in New York today.

  • Yeah.

  • And my hope and intention for this podcast is that there are conversations that can be additive to your life and I want to focus on what I see happening in the world and then we can try to make some sense of it together.

  • So recently I started hearing y'all about more and more people who have been married for decades starting to get divorced.

  • Has anybody else heard this?

  • Yes.

  • Okay.

  • And I thought to myself, well, that never used to happen.

  • You know, once people made it past a certain number, like 20 years, you're just in it for life.

  • Just there.

  • You're just going to take yourself all the way to the flat line, you know?

  • So then I find out that even though divorce is at a 50-year low, here in the United States.

  • The rate of what's being called gray divorce,

  • that's divorce over 50, is actually soaring through the roof.

  • And listen to this,

  • the divorce rate for people over age 50 has doubled and for people over 65,

  • divorce rate has tripled.