The Age of the Strongman: Understanding Trump, with Anne Applebaum (Part Two)

强人时代:解读特朗普,安妮·阿普尔鲍姆(第二部分)

Intelligence Squared

2025-10-27

32 分钟
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The morning after Donald Trump’s victory over Kamala Harris in the U.S. presidential election, The New York Times front page declared: ‘America Hires a Strongman’. But is Trump really a ‘strongman’ and is it fair to put him in the same category of leaders as Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping? The Trump administration is already viewed by many commentators as more authoritarian than the first. But will Trump meaningfully crack down on civil liberties? Will he persecute his political opponents? Will he use the state to enrich himself and his inner circle? And will he abandon democratic allies and align America with other authoritarian so-called ‘strongman’ states? Many critics say the answer to all of those questions is already, demonstrably ‘yes.’ So how far could he go? We were joined by Pulitzer Prize winning historian Anne Applebaum and host Gideon Rachman for the final instalment of our Age of the Strongman event series. --- If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squad, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.

  • For this episode,

  • we're rejoining for part two of our recent live event with Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and political commentator Ann Applebaum.

  • Applebaum joined Gideon Rackman recently at the Royal Geographical Society in London for the final installment of our Age of the Strongman series,

  • Understanding Trump.

  • If you haven't heard part one, do just jump back an episode and get up to speed.

  • But now let's rejoin the conversation live at the Royal Geographical Society.

  • I think that one thing that has shocked people, probably on both sides of the Atlantic, though,

  • is you describe all these acts which are manifestly illegal, you know,

  • whether it's bulldozing bits of the White House or corruption.

  • And America's meant to be a country of laws.

  • It's full of lawyers.

  • It's full of checks and balances.

  • And yet, nothing's happening.

  • So it's not nothing.

  • Some things have been stopped.

  • I have a friend who works for Radio for Europe,

  • which is one of the US foreign broadcasters that the administration has tried to shut down,

  • and they fought back in the courts.