Unspun World: Will Hamas really give up control of Gaza?

未经粉饰的世界:哈马斯真的会放弃对加沙的控制吗?

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2025-10-24

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John Simpson, in discussion with the BBC’s unparalleled range of experts across the world, analyses whether Hamas will lay down its weapons in Gaza, looks at how other jihadist groups have responded to the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, and explores how Ukraine’s approach to the war with Russia might change in the wake of the latest row with President Trump. Producer: Kate Cornell Executive producer: Benedick Watt Commissioning editor: Vara Szajkowski
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  • This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK.

  • On this week's program, for the ceasefire in Gaza to survive,

  • Hamas will have to lay down its weapons.

  • But is that really going to happen?

  • It is very, very difficult to see how Hamas is going to say, well,

  • look, this is the end of armed resistance and these are the weapons and take them.

  • How have other Islamist groups responded to the agreement between Hamas and Israel?

  • Jihadists in general, they never like deals.

  • They like kind of ongoing perpetual jihad against the enemy.

  • And after another blazing White House row between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky,

  • what happens next in Ukraine's war with Russia?

  • Ukraine's position is it can defend itself.

  • But what it really wants, of course, is more opportunity to start to turn the tide of the war.

  • When Donald Trump was asked on his plane to the Middle East

  • if he believed the ceasefire in Gaza would hold,

  • he was confident.

  • The one thing I can tell you is everybody is happy,

  • whether it's Jewish or Muslim or the Arab countries.

  • Every country is dancing in the streets and it's a point in time I don't think you'd ever see it again.

  • They've never seen it for 3,000 years.