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We got a call from the bank and said,
are you aware that there's no funds in this A string of victims across the US stretching from coast to coast.
The amount of victims in such a short time was unbelievable.
Real people losing real money, but the criminals are ghosts.
The anger, the frustration, the fear.
From the BBC World Service,
this is Evil Corp. The story of a cyber crime case that stretches from small-town America to the back streets of Moscow.
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It's Bali in the late 1960s.
And Bobby Radiasa is with friends on the beach outside his village of Kuta.
And my grandpa, my father used to be a fisherman.
And then I love the oceans.
Well, I love the beach, I love the sea.
So he spends a lot of time here, playing in the white sand.
But his mum has told him never to go swimming.
The way she taught us is, or other mothers would say, they call us as a black demon.
At the time, the early days, they tell us it's a belief in black and white magic here.
So they never go in deep.