Is the U.S. Trying to Oust the Government in Venezuela?

美国是否试图推翻委内瑞拉政府?

The Daily

2025-10-23

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For months, President Trump has been ratcheting up the pressure on Venezuela with increasingly aggressive military actions that the administration claims are about targeting drug traffickers. But behind the scenes, some U.S. officials are pushing toward a regime change. Anatoly Kurmanaev, who has been covering the story, discusses the battle in the White House over whether to topple the government of President Nicolás Maduro. Guest: Anatoly Kurmanaev, a reporter for The New York Times covering Russia and its transformation since the invasion of Ukraine. Background reading:  The United States attacked more boats as tensions with Venezuela continued to rise. Here’s what has happened so far.The Trump administration has authorized covert C.I.A. action in Venezuela.Trump officials say the mission aims to disrupt the drug trade. But military officials and analysts say the real goal might be driving Venezuela’s president from power.Photo: Jesus Vargas/Getty Images For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • For months,

  • President Trump has been ratcheting up the pressure on Venezuela with increasingly aggressive military actions that the administration claims are about targeting drug traffickers.

  • But behind the scenes, some U.S. officials are pushing toward a very different goal, regime change.

  • Today,

  • my colleague Anatoly Kermanayev explains the battle being waged within the White House over whether to topple the government of Nicholas Maduro.

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  • Anatoly, welcome back to the Americas.

  • You're in your old stomping ground in Caracas.