Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafir.
And I'm Elise Yu, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
And today we have a very special guest, Vanessa Gregoriadis, who I have known for a very long time.
She was a long time journalist, magazine writer.
She started writing for New York Magazine in like her early 20s.
She wrote some iconic magazine pieces that if you read New York Magazine in the late 90s and 2000s,
you undoubtedly have read.
She also wrote for Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone and like all the blue chip big magazines.
And then a few years ago,
she started a podcast company and she's done some amazing narrative podcasts and now she's a brand new podcast.
So we will get to her a little later in the show,
but we had a really interesting conversation with her.
Not like a little bit about magazine journalism, but mostly about taking care of aging parents,
which is also the topic of her new show.
Yeah.
And it's a topic on a lot of our minds right now just by dinner, our age group, right?
Like this is the generation, like women between 35 and 45 or up are trying to balance so much.
It's like you have,
you often have children still at home and your parents are kind of getting into that age where they're like,