How Can We Break Our Addiction to Contempt? (Update)

如何摆脱对蔑视的成瘾?(更新)

Freakonomics Radio

2025-10-15

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Arthur Brooks, an economist and former head of the American Enterprise Institute, believes that there is only one remedy for our political polarization: love. In this 2021 episode, we ask if Brooks is a fool for thinking this — and if perhaps you are his kind of fool?   SOURCES:Arthur Brooks, professor of public and nonprofit leadership at Harvard University.  RESOURCES:“Vital Statistics on Congress,” by Molly Reynolds and Naomi Maehr (Brookings Institute, 2024).Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence, by Anna Lembke (2021).“Reading Too Much Political News Is Bad for Your Well-Being,” by Arthur Brooks (The Atlantic, 2020).Love Your Enemies: How Decent People Can Save America from the Culture of Contempt, by Arthur Brooks (2019).“This 75-Year Harvard Study Found the 1 Secret to Leading a Fulfilling Life,” by Melanie Curtin (Inc., 2017).The Conservative Heart: How to Build a Fairer, Happier, and More Prosperous America, by Arthur Brooks (2015).“Grin and Bear It: The Influence of Manipulated Facial Expression on the Stress Response,” by Tara Kraft and Sarah Pressman (Psychological Science, 2012).  EXTRAS:“Why Is U.S. Media So Negative?” by Freakonomics Radio (2021). Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.

  • Given the heated nature of our national conversation these days,

  • I have been thinking about an interview I did in 2021.

  • So I went back and listened and I thought you might like to hear it too,

  • whether again or for the first time.

  • Facts and figures have been updated, but do keep in mind this conversation was recorded in 2021.

  • As always, thanks for listening and let us know what you think.

  • Our email is radio at Freakonomics.com.

  • I have a question that I'm afraid is going to sound rude no matter how I put it.

  • It's okay.

  • It's okay.

  • So my reading of your second to last book, The Conservative Heart,

  • was that it was written to help pave the way for the right kind of Republican presidential candidate in 2016,

  • maybe a Jeb Bush type or whatnot.

  • Is that roughly right?

  • Yeah, it was my entrant into the ideological sweepstakes of 2016.

  • It's debate night for the Republicans and we're just.

  • And I lost.

  • This is a tough business.

  • Oh, I know you're a tough guy.