Why do we live in unusually innovative times?

为何我们身处创新异常活跃的时代?

The Indicator from Planet Money

2025-10-14

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For most of human history, economic growth was, well, pretty bleak. But around the Enlightenment, things started clicking. This year's Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences went to a trio of researchers whose work focuses on how technological progress led to this sustained economic growth. Today we hear from one of them, Joel Mokyr, about his work on European economic history. Related episodes: Why are some nations richer? (2024 Economics Nobel) A conversation with Nobel laureate Claudia Goldin (2023 Economics Nobel) When Luddites attack (Update) (Featuring Joel Mokyr) For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter.   Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • NPR. Greg Grzelski, author of the Planet Money newsletter.

  • Ready to pop some champagne?

  • Yeah.

  • Why are we popping champagne so early in the week again?

  • It is the economics Nobel.

  • And it's the one time of the year where I'm allowed to talk about Francis Bacon and the scientific method and the enlightenment and how that all led to the incredible discoveries and gadgets we have today.

  • I'm so happy for you, Darien.

  • Yeah.

  • So the award, this was a huge win for economic historians.

  • Among others, Joel Mokir from Northwestern University.

  • For economics to work without economic history is like an evolutionary biologist without paleontology.

  • And if you don't have paleontology,

  • you just miss 99.5% of all the species that ever walked to this earth.

  • This is The Indicator from Planet Money.

  • I'm Greg Rizalski.

  • In our darring words, today on the show,

  • we're going to answer the question of why technology keeps getting better and better.

  • Along with Joel Mokia,

  • Philippe Allion and Peter Howard got the economic Nobel this year for their work on understanding growth and innovation.

  • So today, we're going to focus on a part of that,