2025-10-10
43 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.
Can criminal psychology offer us a new way to think about and combat climate change?
In this episode,
criminal psychologist Julia Shaw sits down with physicist and broadcaster Helen Chersky to offer a compelling new framework to understand environmental crime.
While big structural issues often cloud political progress on climate action,
sure takes a more granular approach.
In conversation with Cherokee, she draws on her new book, Green Crime,
to illuminate the minds of those behind some of the world's most devastating environmental scandals.
Let's join our host, Herne Cherokee, now with more.
Welcome to Intelligence Squared.
I'm Helen Cheresky.
And our guest for today is Julia Shaw.
She's a criminal psychologist.
She's worked as an expert witness.
She gives talks all around the world.
And she's worked as a lecturer and researcher at various universities.
She is a prolific writer.
She is the author of three past books, The Memory, Illusion, Making Evil and Bye.
But today we are here to talk about her new book, which is this one, Green Crime,