2025-10-08
31 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.
For this episode, we're rejoining for part two of our live event with Anthony Scaramucci.
The former White House communications director turned outspoken Trump critic joined Emily Maitlis on the Intelligence Squared stage in September for a straight-talking conversation on the fallout from Trump's second presidency.
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Now let's rejoin the conversation with Emily Maitlis and Anthony Scaramucci live at Union Chapel in London.
Following the murder of Charlie Kirk,
Trump has been on a mission to shut down what he calls a radical left terrorist network.
And he says that the left is full of people using words like racist or fascist or Nazi.
So it's no wonder that people keep getting attacked.
This has become a real conundrum, I guess,
for people who think that he is acting in an authoritarian slash fascist way.
But don't know how to call that out without then becoming a target for his honor.
So that's part of his genius.
Yeah.
Right?
Unfortunately, it is.
He's projecting.