Trump Claims ‘Rebellion’ in American Cities

特朗普声称美国城市发生“叛乱”

The Daily

2025-10-08

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Over the past week, ICE and border patrol agents have clashed with Chicago residents, and federal guard troops arriving in the city might inflame tensions further. Julie Bosman, Chicago bureau chief for The Times, and Mattathias Schwartz describe the situation on the ground and explain how the city fits into a broader political fight. Guest: Julie Bosman, the Chicago bureau chief for The New York Times.Mattathias Schwartz, who has reported on the tension between President Trump and the courts.Background reading:  Drones, helicopters, hundreds of arrests: President Trump’s immigration crackdown in Chicago so far.A judge blocked a National Guard deployment in Oregon as Mr. Trump expands his targets.Photo: Octavio Jones/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • We're living in interesting times, a turning point in history.

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  • Over the past week, ICE and Border Patrol agents have clashed with the residents of Chicago,

  • and Federal Guard troops arriving in the city might only inflame tensions further.

  • Today,

  • My colleagues Julie Bosman and Mathias Schwartz explain the situation on the ground and how Chicago fits into a broader fight between the Trump administration and the states where the president is trying to send the National Guard.

  • It's Wednesday, October 8th.

  • Julie, we've seen...

  • this flurry of activity around the country in places where President Trump has tried to send the National Guard troops in.

  • Two places that we're watching super closely are Chicago and Portland.

  • And in both of those cities, the officials are desperate to try to keep these federal troops out.

  • And in Portland, they've been successful so far, but not in Chicago.

  • Federal troops are actually on their way to Chicago as we speak at about 11.15 a.m. on Tuesday.

  • And you are there.

  • You've been reporting on all of this.