America’s Next Story: Trumpism After Trump

美国的下一个故事:特朗普主义在特朗普之后

The Opinions

2025-10-06

30 分钟
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What and who comes after President Trump? That’s the question behind America’s Next Story, a limited series from “The Opinions.” In this episode David Leonhardt, an editorial director in Times Opinion, talks to Gladden Pappin, a national conservative dedicated to furthering MAGA’s success in the United States. Pappin lays out his vision for the movement after Trump leaves office and argues with Leonhardt over whether the president and his imitators abroad present a worldwide threat to democracy. Thoughts? Email us at theopinions@nytimes.com. This episode of “The Opinions” was produced by Jillian Weinberger. It was edited by Alison Bruzek and Kaari Pitkin. The rest of the show's production team includes Derek Arthur, Vishakha Darbha and Kristina Samulewski. Mixing by Isaac Jones. Original music by Carole Sabouraud. Fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Kristina Samulewski. The director of Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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  • This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times Opinion.

  • You've heard the news.

  • Here's what to make of it.

  • I'm David Leonhart, an editorial director in New York Times Opinion,

  • and this is America's Next Story.

  • A series about the ideas that once held our country together and those that might do so again.

  • We the people, in order to form a more perfect union.

  • Ask not what your country can do for you.

  • Ask what you can do for your country.

  • America is too great for small dreams.

  • Change is what's happening in America.

  • And we will make America great again.

  • God bless you and good night.

  • I love you.

  • Since Donald Trump took over the Republican Party a decade ago,

  • there's always been this big question.

  • Is his success mostly about him personally?

  • Or is he instead a vessel for ideas that will continue to dominate the political right after he leaves office?

  • There's a group of conservative thinkers who are working to make sure that Trumpism ends up being more than just Trump.

  • They reject the globalism that the Republican Party once embraced.