Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear critiques the president and thinks about trying to succeed him.
To lead with the right example, which I think is humanity as opposed to the president's cruelty.
A Democratic governor talks of winning in a red state on a special episode of Up First from NPR News.
Andy Beshear is responding to a federal government shutdown and the president's threat to fire federal workers.
People aren't a negotiating tool.
They are not a problem.
And that's how he's treating these families.
Bashir is also one of several Democratic governors who are thinking of a run for higher office.
His calling card is winning in the kind of states where Democrats usually lose.
How does a Democrat appeal to rural and conservative voters?
And how has his party lost so much ground?
Stay with us for a talk with Andy Bashir.
Governor, thanks for hosting us.
It's great to be in Kentucky.
Thanks for coming to Frankfurt.
We're proud to have you.
Well, it's great.
And we are here on the morning that a federal government shutdown has begun.
How is this state affected, if at all?
Well, the state's going to be affected in a number of ways.