Jane Goodall: In her own words

简·古道尔:用她自己的话

Lives Less Ordinary

2025-10-03

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This extra edition of Lives Less Ordinary is to remember the remarkable conservationist and primatologist Jane Goodall, who has died at 91. The life she lived alongside great apes revolutionised the way we see them – and ourselves. It was 65 years ago that a young Jane left England to travel to the Gombe Stream National Park on the shores of Lake Tanganika. She was there to observe chimps in their natural habitat – and her discoveries were game-changing. It was the first time anyone had seen a non-human animal using tools – forcing a rethink of our relationship to them, the natural habitat, and what it is to be human. In this revealing interview from 2016 she talks about how her work was embedded in a lifelong fascination with creatures great and small. Presenter: Jo Fidgen Producers: June Christie and Edgar Maddicott Lives Less Ordinary is a podcast from the BBC World Service that brings you the most incredible true stories from around the world. Each episode a guest shares their most dramatic, moving, personal story. Listen for unbelievable twists, mysteries uncovered, and inspiring journeys - spanning the entire human experience. Step into someone else’s life and expect the unexpected.   Got a story to tell? Send an email to liveslessordinary@bbc.co.uk or message us via WhatsApp: 0044 330 678 2784   You can read our privacy notice here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5YD3hBqmw26B8WMHt6GkQxG/lives-less-ordinary-privacy-notice
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  • That basically means this is me, this is Jane.

  • Every chimp has a signature pantoute which identifies him or her as an individual.

  • Dame Jane Goodall.

  • Talking the language of the chimpanzees, she loved so much.

  • Jane died this week, aged 91, leaving an extraordinary legacy.

  • The life she lived alongside great apes revolutionised the way we see them and ourselves.

  • Hello,

  • I'm Jo Fidgen and this is Lives Less Ordinary from the BBC World Service with the remarkable pioneer Jane Goodall.

  • It was 65 years ago that a young Jane left England to travel to the Gombe Stream National Park on the shores of Lake Tanganyika.

  • She was there to observe chimps in their natural habitat and her discoveries were game-changing.

  • It was the first time anyone had seen a non-human animal using tools,

  • forcing a rethink of our relationship to them and what it is to be human.

  • Almost a decade ago I spoke to her from Tanzania about her lifelong fascination with creatures great and small.

  • My first memory is of hens when I went to stay on a farm in the country when I was four years old and I actually hid in a henhouse for about four hours to see how this hen laid an egg.

  • And there was also a goose, I was very fond of the goose got hurt and I nursed it.

  • So that special relationship was there right from the beginning and that special approach to animals of watching,

  • watching what they do.

  • Yeah,

  • even before that my mother came to my room one day and I was one and a half and I'd taken a whole lot of earthworms up there to my bed and instead of being angry as so many mothers would be