Weaponizing the Justice Department

将司法部武器化

Radio Atlantic

2025-10-02

40 分钟
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President Donald Trump is using the Department of Justice to try to punish his political enemies. How much can the president bend the DOJ, an institution built on norms and ethics, to his will before it breaks? In this episode, we talk to the Atlantic staff writer Quinta Jurecic, who covers legal issues, and Benjamin Wittes, editor in chief of Lawfare, about who the Trump administration might target next, what legal strategies might work, and where the judicial system contains some surprising sources of resistance. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Atlantic subscribers also get access to exclusive subscriber audio in Apple Podcasts. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/listener. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • The showdown between Donald Trump and James Comey is what gamers might describe as a 5-5 matchup,

  • where both players have different but equally impressive skills and advantages.

  • Donald Trump is, of course, the president with the power of the executive branch behind him.

  • The prosecutor Trump appointed to carry out the case,

  • Lindsey Halligan, has literally never prosecuted a case in her life.

  • So, obvious weakness.

  • James Comey, the former FBI director who was indicted last week at Trump's urging,

  • is currently just a private citizen.

  • But Comey has powerful lawyer friends who can represent him,

  • he knows the system, and he has resources.

  • Which is maybe why, after he was indicted, he essentially said, game on.

  • My heart is broken for the Department of Justice.

  • But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.

  • So let's have a trial.

  • So that's the immediate news.

  • But James Comey is, of course, just the beginning.

  • I'm Hannah Rosen.

  • This is Radio Atlantic.