How to get immigration right. With Adam Ozimek

如何做好移民工作。由亚当·奥齐梅克主讲

The Economics Show

2025-10-02

34 分钟
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Many argue immigration is key to America’s economic success. So as President Trump clamps down on it, what might he be getting wrong and what does the optimal skilled immigration landscape look like for the US and elsewhere? John Burn-Murdoch, the FT’s chief data columnist, speaks to Dr Adam Ozimek, chief economist at the Economic Innovation Group, who co-authored a recent paper on high-skilled immigration, Exceptional By Design.   Find details of the EIG report here.  John’s article, co-authored by Stephen Bush: ‘The truth about immigration’. Plus his column on the dangers posed to liberal democracy by failing to address imperfections in immigration policy.  John Burn-Murdoch is the FT’s chief data columnist and writer. You can read his column Data Points here.   Join top FT journalists Chris Giles, Katie Martin, Claire Jones and special guest Lael Brainard on October 23, 1200 GMT for an exclusive subscriber webinar, Markets on edge: central banks, bonds and the risks ahead. Register now and put your questions directly to our panel. Visit ft.com/edge Subscribe to The Economics Show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. This episode was produced by Lulu Smyth with original music from Breen Turner. Sound design and mix by Simon Panayi. Our executive producer is Manuela Saragosa. Andrew Giorgiadis is our broadcast engineer. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • The United States is a nation of immigrants,

  • and that seems to be something President Trump wants to change.

  • But many argue immigration is key to the country's economic success,

  • attracting the best and brightest from around the world.

  • In fact,

  • typically the large majority of immigration in any given year is people coming over for work and study,

  • and this, after all, is the part of immigration governments have full control over.

  • So what does the optimal skilled immigration landscape look like?

  • And how does that differ from the reality of what we've been seeing in the US and the UK?

  • Well, my guest today has quite a few ideas.

  • Hello and welcome to The Economics Show from The Financial Times.

  • I'm John Byrne Murdoch, the FT's chief data reporter and columnist.

  • And in this episode, I'm joined by Dr Adam Ozimac from the Economic Innovation Group.

  • Adam, his chief economist at the EIG, and earlier this year, he co-authored the paper,

  • Exceptional by Design, a report on high-skilled immigration in the US.

  • Thanks for joining us, Adam.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • Now, I want to start with this thing we always do on the economics show,

  • where we ask our guests to rate something on a scale of 1 to 10.

  • So as a friendly starter question, how is the US government handling immigration,