We're about to lose a lot of foreign STEM workers

我们即将失去大量外籍STEM工作者。

The Indicator from Planet Money

2025-09-30

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Earlier this month, President Donald Trump announced a $100,000 fee on new H-1B visa petitioners. Today on the show, we talk to an economist about how much H-1B visa holders have contributed to US growth, their effects on American-born workers, and why the United States’ competitors are taking advantage of this moment.  Related episodes:  How much international students matter to the economy  The precarity of the H-1B work visa  Could foreign workers unlock America's tight labor market?  For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Fact-checking by Sierra Juarez. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter.   Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • NPR. This is The Indicator from Planet Money.

  • I'm Waylon Wong, and I'm joined by Darian Woods, freshly back from his honeymoon.

  • Congratulations.

  • Hello.

  • Hi. Thank you.

  • How was your trip?

  • It was mixed, so most notably...

  • I was on the beach with my now wife and she gets a text message from her boss and it's saying,

  • are you in the country?

  • Oh my gosh.

  • And we're like, what happened?

  • And so we look at the news and Donald Trump has announced that there is this huge $100,000 fee for new engines into the country for people with H1B visas.

  • My wife is on an H1B visa.

  • Oh my gosh.

  • This was such a huge news story last week and you were living it.

  • I could not escape the news.

  • It was very frustrating, just as you're trying to unwind.

  • And so we take this very panicked,

  • tearful trip to the Barcelona airport and we're reconsidering like,

  • you know, what country do we live in?