ReThinking: Brené Brown on courageous leadership

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  If you do not care for and are able to connect with the people you lead,

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  Welcome back to Rethinking, my podcast with Ted on the science of what makes us tick.

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  I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking.

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  Brené Brown is a researcher and storyteller who's changed the way I think about vulnerability,

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  shame, empathy, and leadership.

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  She hosts the podcast Dare to Lead, where I've loved being a recurring guest,

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  and she's given some of the most popular Ted Talks of all time,

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  and written six number one New York Times bestselling books.

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  I hosted Brené for a live conversation in the Authors at Wharton series to talk about her brand new book,

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