Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafreer.
And I'm Elise You, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Welcome to the show.
Today, we have Erebel Sikardi on the show.
She is a beauty writer who has a new book out called House of Beauty that is a very interesting take on the beauty industry like one that I haven't really seen before.
It's kind of a take down if you will.
I really enjoyed our conversation.
So we will get to her in a little bit.
At least how are you doing?
All things considered pretty good.
Ava turned 13 this week.
So I now officially have a teenager.
Yes.
And instead of a party, she just wanted to go get hot pot as a family.
So we all went for hot pot.
We're lucky to be in one of the cities that has a Heidi Lau.
And Heidi Lau is like the great hot pot place restaurant that has franchise locations,
kind of like Din Tai Fung does.
So we went to Heidi Lau and then she wanted a shopping spree instead of a party