Atheist vs Christian vs Spiritual Thinker: The Paperclip Problem That Exposes Religion!

无神论者对基督徒对灵性思想家:揭露宗教的曲别针难题!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

2025-09-29

3 小时 21 分钟
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Are We Living Through the BIGGEST Crisis of Purpose & Meaning in History? 3 in 5 young Americans believe that their life lacks purpose. This isn’t just a statistic, it’s a silent epidemic reshaping mental health, identity and future...So, how do we fix it? In this DOAC debate, Greg Koukl (Christian), Alex O’Connor (atheist), and Dr K (psychiatrist) explore why so many feel lost, whether God is the answer, how death anxiety drives our search for meaning, and how YOU can find direction…today.  This isn’t just a discussion. It’s a confrontation with life’s hardest challenge: finding meaning, and how faith, reason, and spirituality compete to fill the void. Greg Koukl is a Christian apologist, speaker, and founder of Stand to Reason, Alex O’Connor is a philosopher, writer, and host of the Cosmic Skeptic channel, and Dr K, is a Harvard-trained psychiatrist, mental health educator, and co-founder of Healthy Gamer.  Together, they discuss:  ◼️If God gave you a purpose…what does that actually mean? ◼️Why “do what makes you happy” is terrible advice for finding meaning ◼️How comfort is quietly killing your sense of purpose ◼️The shocking truth about modern loneliness and identity loss ◼️The “paperclip problem” that exposes religion (00:00) Intro (02:27) Atheist vs Christian vs Spiritualist (05:24) What Is Purpose? (12:56) Is Meaning Necessary? (17:24) What's the Point of This Conversation? (18:53) Can Humanity Find Its Purpose? (36:55) Is It Important to Be Curious About God? (42:14) Is Modern Society the Reason for a Meaning Crisis? (42:46) What Is Meaning and Why Do People Feel the Lack of It? (51:20) The Problem of Consciousness (1:06:56) How to Find Meaning (1:25:45) Is Agnosticism the Truth? (1:35:13) Ads (1:36:11) Do We Each Have a Specific Purpose or Is It Self-Chosen? (1:39:59) Dharma and Karma (1:48:28) Can We Have a Fulfilling Life Without a Transcendent Purpose? (2:20:02) Ads (2:22:23) How to Create a Meaningful Life as an Agnostic (2:40:05) Is Alex on His Way to Getting Closer to God? (2:51:59) How to Remove the Feeling of Being Lost in Life (3:05:23) What to Do When You Feel Stuck (3:11:27) Closing Thoughts Follow Alex:  YouTube: http://bit.ly/3KCRM0B  Substack: http://bit.ly/46GsExC  Instagram: https://bit.ly/4mBNW5o  Follow Greg: X - https://bit.ly/4nMy80v  Stand to Reason - https://bit.ly/4pFtYJG  A Gift to DOAC Listeners from Stand to Reason: Download "How God Rescues Broken Souls” from Greg Koukl’s book, The Story of Reality, at http://bit.ly/3It65o4  You can purchase ‘The Story of Reality’, here: https://amzn.to/4nGNft3  Follow Dr K:  YouTube - https://bit.ly/48wUuig  Instagram - https://bit.ly/48xxSy3  Twitch - https://bit.ly/42zkAO3  You can purchase Dr K’s book, ‘How To Raise a Healthy Gamer’, here: https://amzn.to/4norKgr  The Diary Of A CEO: ◼️Join DOAC circle here - https://doaccircle.com/  ◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - https://smarturl.it/DOACbook  ◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt  ◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb  ◼️Get email updates - https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt  ◼️Follow Steven - https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb  Sponsors:  Adobe Express - http://ADOBE.LY/STEVEN   Plaud - https://www.plaud.ai/pages/steven use DOAC22 for 22% off Note and NotePin Function Health - https://Functionhealth.com/DOAC with code DOAC100 for $100 towards your membership
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  • 9 in 10 young people in the UK believe that their life is lacking purpose.

  • And a lot of people are turning back to religion.

  • There is something going on.

  • This is about the most important thing that anyone can ever find out about their life.

  • And God has made us for a purpose.

  • And the purpose flows in that meaning.

  • I kind of reject that

  • because this is a perfect example of a solution being provided without explaining exactly why it provides a solution.

  • And that's what people are doing in religious traditions.

  • I hard disagree.

  • For me,

  • finding meaning and purpose is like a very practical And that's what I want to talk about today.

  • We are joined by an atheist, Christian and spiritual thinker.

  • To find an answer to the purpose crisis millions are facing today.

  • One of the reasons that I'm a Christian is because it's the best explanation for the way things are.

  • But if Christianity were true,

  • we would not expect the kind of suffering that is present in the world.

  • So I'm very curious.

  • What if I died from cancer at one years old?

  • So someone violated God's commands and that had an impact on the world.