The U.S. Keeps Killing Venezuelans on Boats. Is That Legal?

美国继续在船上杀害委内瑞拉人,这合法吗?

The Daily

2025-09-25

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The U.S. military has blown up three boats in the Caribbean Sea in the past three weeks, killing 17 people aboard. Each time, President Trump has claimed that the boats were carrying drugs to the United States and that those killed were “narcoterrorists.” But he has offered no concrete evidence to back up this claim. Charlie Savage, who covers national security for The New York Times, tells us what he has learned about what may be the true objective behind these airstrikes and whether any of this is even legal. Guest: Charlie Savage, who writes about national security and legal policy for The New York Times. Background reading:  Last week, Mr. Trump said the U.S. military had attacked a third boat suspected of carrying drugs, killing three.He has claimed the power to kill those suspected of drug smuggling.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Photo: Elizabeth Frantz for The New York Times Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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  • One by one over the past few weeks,

  • three boats in the Caribbean Sea have been blown up by the U.S. military,

  • killing all 17 people aboard.

  • Each time,

  • President Trump has claimed that the boats were carrying drugs to the U.S. and that those killed were narco-terrorists.

  • But he's offered no concrete evidence to back up that claim.

  • Today,

  • my colleague Charlie Savage on what he's learned about what may be the true objective behind these airstrikes and whether any of this is even legal.

  • It's Thursday, September 25th.

  • Charlie, it's great to have you.

  • Thanks for having me on.

  • We've come to you to talk about what's been happening off the coast of Venezuela over the past month.

  • We've now seen three separate U.S. military strikes on boats that American officials say were carrying drugs.