Hello and welcome to Overthink, the podcast where we make a man out of you.
I'm Ellie Anderson and I'm David Penya Guzman.
Okay, well Mulan notwithstanding.
Masculinity is a moment of crisis.
Maybe that's why we need the Mulan moment in fact.
Maybe that's why we need to make a man out of you because it's not clear out of you specifically
because it's not clear I think to many men today what masculinity looks like and what their relationship to masculinity should be.
I think this is partly why there's been this rise of right-wing influencers and what's known as the manosphere
because I think like when I talk about masculinity with my friends who are you know,
to my knowledge, not caught up in the Manisphere discourse.
Even they, you know, like really well-meaning men,
often feminist, with commitments to leftist politics, maybe even gender abolition.
they don't know how to relate to masculinity themselves.
They find that they have a fraught relationship with it,
and they're just sort of like, I'd rather ignore it, right?
Which is not a great way of going about things either.
So I think you have this rise of either the explicit adoption of right-wing masculine ideals through the manosphere,
or you have a sort of fraught...
Like I don't know what to do with this and so I'm just gonna kind of ignore it relationship with masculinity among many men today Yeah,
and I think the grasping at straws that you're getting at is also coupled with a deep sense of loneliness on the part of a lot of men Yeah,