Blue scare: the rising Democratic Socialists

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Checks and Balance from The Economist

2025-09-20

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The Democratic Socialists of America are on the brink of capturing real power for the first time. But ahead of Zohran Mamdani's probable election as New York mayor, the DSA has made its positions more politically palatable to a broader electorate. Is the DSA trying to ready itself for a greater role in American politics, beyond New York? John Prideaux hosts with Charlotte Howard and James Bennet. Features a clip from Paramount Pictures.  Runtime: 49.51 Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts  Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+   For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account.
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  • The Economist.

  • It owes its origins to of all things, an industrialist, a Welsh one at that.

  • Robert Owen made his fortune in textile mills in Wales and Scotland.

  • But the export to the United States he's most credited with, well, today we call it socialism.

  • Owen moved to the United States and set up utopian colonies where people worked together instead of for themselves.

  • They didn't last long, but socialism has.

  • It's evolved, it's been pilloried, and to its supporters, it's been misunderstood.

  • And a Democratic socialist, much to the delight of Republicans,

  • is on the cusp of winning the mayor's race in America's most important city.

  • I'm John Prado and this is Checks and Balance from The Economist.

  • Each week we take one big theme shaping American politics and explore it in depth.

  • Today, what is socialism in America in 2025?

  • Bernie Sanders spurred support for the Democratic Socialists of America when he ran for president, but he's not even a member.

  • The party appears to be moderating some of its earlier positions. Why?

  • Is socialism, which has long underachieved in the United States, becoming more appealing to voters?

  • Joining me this week to talk about socialism in America are Charlotte Howard,

  • who's in New York, and James Bennett, who's in Washington D.C.

  • This is an episode we had planned to do last week, and then we changed subjects after Charlie Kirk was killed.

  • I think it's still really relevant and interesting to take a look at what is going on on the left wing of the Democratic Party,

  • perhaps particularly given that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and others have blamed the far left and a culture of violence on the far left