The first commitment is whether you're committed to working on it.
The decision about whether you stay together or not comes at the end, not at the beginning.
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Hey everyone, welcome back to the couples therapist couch.
This is Shane Burkle and today I'm speaking with Dr. Ellen Bader, author,
creator of the developmental model and one of the original founders of couples therapy itself.
Hey Ellen, welcome to the show.
Hey, thank you Shane.
It's good to see you again and good to be with you.
Yeah, good to see you again too.
For those who, if you enjoy this conversation, if you haven't listened to the other episodes,
Ellen and I spoke on episode number 49 and episode number 153.
So, you know, we talked all about the developmental model.